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		<title>By: Naval Ravikant</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/can-entrepreneurs-diversify/comment-page-1#comment-6392</link>
		<dc:creator>Naval Ravikant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two words: adverse selection.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, in the scheme that you imply, where a VC does this for every founder that they&#039;ve invested in (mandatory!) that problem goes away. You may be on to something here.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: adverse selection.</p>

<p>However, in the scheme that you imply, where a VC does this for every founder that they&#8217;ve invested in (mandatory!) that problem goes away. You may be on to something here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: FlorianDargel</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlorianDargel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 00:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Can Entrepreneur’s Diversify their Stock across their Investor’s Portfolio?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All ideas get a second outing, and this (Link: Nivi : Can Entrepreneur’s Diversify their Stock across their Investor’s Portfolio?.) is no different. Can&#039;t lay my fingers on it just now, but I remember reading about something like this both in the ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can Entrepreneur’s Diversify their Stock across their Investor’s Portfolio?</strong></p>

<p>All ideas get a second outing, and this (Link: Nivi : Can Entrepreneur’s Diversify their Stock across their Investor’s Portfolio?.) is no different. Can&#8217;t lay my fingers on it just now, but I remember reading about something like this both in the &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Charlie Crystle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Crystle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nivi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There was something like this back in 2000--I think it was called an exchange fund, but it was for companies that had been bought or gone public and the execs or founders were locked up. They were able to do tax-free exchange of stocks with other execs in the fund, so everyone would get some diversification without having to tax a tax hit in doing it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But doing it sooner and making the founder almost a limited parter is a great idea. Really great.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nivi,</p>

<p>There was something like this back in 2000&#8211;I think it was called an exchange fund, but it was for companies that had been bought or gone public and the execs or founders were locked up. They were able to do tax-free exchange of stocks with other execs in the fund, so everyone would get some diversification without having to tax a tax hit in doing it.</p>

<p>But doing it sooner and making the founder almost a limited parter is a great idea. Really great.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cem Sertoglu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cem Sertoglu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had blogged about the same issue, as well as the responses I got from the VC community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://csertoglu.typepad.com/sortipreneur/2005/05/what_drives_ven.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had blogged about the same issue, as well as the responses I got from the VC community.</p>

<p><a href="http://csertoglu.typepad.com/sortipreneur/2005/05/what_drives_ven.html" rel="nofollow">http://csertoglu.typepad.com/sortipreneur/2005/05/what_drives_ven.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Edwyn Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwyn Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nivi,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;check out this article from wired http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.04/pension.html its about someone doing the same sort of thing for apiring artists so that they can have a pension fund.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Edwyn&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nivi,</p>

<p>check out this article from wired <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.04/pension.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.04/pension.html</a> its about someone doing the same sort of thing for apiring artists so that they can have a pension fund.</p>

<p>Edwyn</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Edwyn Chan's Weblog : web 2.0 &#124; blog media &#124; china</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/can-entrepreneurs-diversify/comment-page-1#comment-2818</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwyn Chan's Weblog : web 2.0 &#124; blog media &#124; china</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A fund for Entrepreneur to diversify their risk&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nivi has an interesting post suggesting how maybe VC&#039;s could let entrepreneur maybe put 25% of their stock in a pool with all the other similar startups in the VC&#039;s portfolio.  this enables entrepreneurs to diversify risk across the whole portfolio a...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A fund for Entrepreneur to diversify their risk</strong></p>

<p>Nivi has an interesting post suggesting how maybe VC&#8217;s could let entrepreneur maybe put 25% of their stock in a pool with all the other similar startups in the VC&#8217;s portfolio.  this enables entrepreneurs to diversify risk across the whole portfolio a&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Gibbons</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/can-entrepreneurs-diversify/comment-page-1#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fascinating post Nivi -&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is very similar to what I&#039;m doing with Remote IQ; the intended result is a portfolio of startups and founders that share equity; a web2 incubator if you like that builds and spreads risk across multiple &quot;investment products&quot; for which we plan to attract VC interest. Likewise we offer VC&#039;s the option of either spread risk in Remote IQ, or direct investment in our startups once they&#039;ve proven themselves in Alpha.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;d&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fascinating post Nivi -</p>

<p>This is very similar to what I&#8217;m doing with Remote IQ; the intended result is a portfolio of startups and founders that share equity; a web2 incubator if you like that builds and spreads risk across multiple &#8220;investment products&#8221; for which we plan to attract VC interest. Likewise we offer VC&#8217;s the option of either spread risk in Remote IQ, or direct investment in our startups once they&#8217;ve proven themselves in Alpha.</p>

<p>d</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Nerezov</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/can-entrepreneurs-diversify/comment-page-1#comment-2765</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Nerezov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree. This is a clever approach to solve the problem. We can&#039;t continue to overlook the total disparity between vcs and entrepreneurs. The system is broken and it needs fixing. With Nivi&#039;s solution cash isn&#039;t exported out of the investee company, yet the founders still get a degree of diversification (which makes it better than a straight cash out).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of this discussion, of course, needs to be steered towards venture capitalists, and the magnitude of benefits that risk alignment makes available for them. Everyone understands that if changes are made, then founders will be more comfortable taking more risk (which might translate into better portfolio performance), but here&#039;s another important benefit that the &quot;founder&#039;s pool&quot; can accrue to the venture capitalists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Quite fundamentally, we can changing the way we think about vc financing; away from it being a straight injection of cash, and towards thinking of it as a &quot;financing package&quot; which includes other securities, and perhaps fringe benefits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;VCc need to compete and differentiate their money. If they have another dimension to their &quot;product&quot;, it just gives them more bargaining strength for negotiate better deals. It&#039;s like employers differentiating themselves by emphasizing the complete spectrum of the remuneration package (rather than salary).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For vcs, it&#039;s not just the amount of money available, it&#039;s not just how much &quot;value add&quot; you can offer, it&#039;s the &quot;risk profile of the financing package&quot; you can offer to your entrepreneurs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example: Bessemer can do an early stage deal, but the financing package they offer includes complementary securities (like interests in other Bessemer investees). For entrepreneurs, they get the money, but they also benefit from an improved personal finance risk profile - making Bessemer financeer of first choice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The point is: Entrepreneurs diversifying their risk is good for venture capitalists.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. This is a clever approach to solve the problem. We can&#8217;t continue to overlook the total disparity between vcs and entrepreneurs. The system is broken and it needs fixing. With Nivi&#8217;s solution cash isn&#8217;t exported out of the investee company, yet the founders still get a degree of diversification (which makes it better than a straight cash out).</p>

<p>All of this discussion, of course, needs to be steered towards venture capitalists, and the magnitude of benefits that risk alignment makes available for them. Everyone understands that if changes are made, then founders will be more comfortable taking more risk (which might translate into better portfolio performance), but here&#8217;s another important benefit that the &#8220;founder&#8217;s pool&#8221; can accrue to the venture capitalists.</p>

<p>Quite fundamentally, we can changing the way we think about vc financing; away from it being a straight injection of cash, and towards thinking of it as a &#8220;financing package&#8221; which includes other securities, and perhaps fringe benefits.</p>

<p>VCc need to compete and differentiate their money. If they have another dimension to their &#8220;product&#8221;, it just gives them more bargaining strength for negotiate better deals. It&#8217;s like employers differentiating themselves by emphasizing the complete spectrum of the remuneration package (rather than salary).</p>

<p>For vcs, it&#8217;s not just the amount of money available, it&#8217;s not just how much &#8220;value add&#8221; you can offer, it&#8217;s the &#8220;risk profile of the financing package&#8221; you can offer to your entrepreneurs.</p>

<p>For example: Bessemer can do an early stage deal, but the financing package they offer includes complementary securities (like interests in other Bessemer investees). For entrepreneurs, they get the money, but they also benefit from an improved personal finance risk profile &#8211; making Bessemer financeer of first choice.</p>

<p>The point is: Entrepreneurs diversifying their risk is good for venture capitalists.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dave e</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nivi, i have the beginning of a business plan for a fund that would enable both founders and employees to diversify the financial risk associated with choosing serial entrepreneurship as a long-term career path.  let me know if you&#039;d like to discuss.  you can bounce it off of scott ring at bvp.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nivi, i have the beginning of a business plan for a fund that would enable both founders and employees to diversify the financial risk associated with choosing serial entrepreneurship as a long-term career path.  let me know if you&#8217;d like to discuss.  you can bounce it off of scott ring at bvp.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dorrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is quite brilliant.  I guess some founders could see it as a drag on their potential and the vc would then be adversely affected in its ability to attract some deals.  I think it should be closer to 5% and the vc would have to offer it without exception.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite brilliant.  I guess some founders could see it as a drag on their potential and the vc would then be adversely affected in its ability to attract some deals.  I think it should be closer to 5% and the vc would have to offer it without exception.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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