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	<title>Comments on: Steve Jobs: Fast Second?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Kerr</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-5588</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 06:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with the essence of your post, but I take issue with your take on the iPod taking the innovation of existing MP3 players and becoming the &quot;fast second.&quot; The real reason the iPod became dominant was that the iTunes Music Store was far and away the &quot;fast first&quot; of purchasing digital music.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While Pressplay and other services were scrambling to create a full digital storefront and THEN, on top of that, figuring out a way to deliver an easy way to hook up with devices, Apple was way ahead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, yes, the iPod itself may have been second, but the total digital purchase and download to device process was all Apple, and it gave them a huge lead.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the essence of your post, but I take issue with your take on the iPod taking the innovation of existing MP3 players and becoming the &#8220;fast second.&#8221; The real reason the iPod became dominant was that the iTunes Music Store was far and away the &#8220;fast first&#8221; of purchasing digital music.</p>

<p>While Pressplay and other services were scrambling to create a full digital storefront and THEN, on top of that, figuring out a way to deliver an easy way to hook up with devices, Apple was way ahead.</p>

<p>So, yes, the iPod itself may have been second, but the total digital purchase and download to device process was all Apple, and it gave them a huge lead.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nortius Maximus</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-4166</link>
		<dc:creator>Nortius Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Each revision of their products makes the last revision look like last year’s bad fashion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sony are past masters at that game. Obviously Jobs has done his homework as a &quot;second&quot; (albeit not incredibly fast) in the tech-as-fashion paradigm.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Each revision of their products makes the last revision look like last year’s bad fashion.</blockquote>

<p>Sony are past masters at that game. Obviously Jobs has done his homework as a &#8220;second&#8221; (albeit not incredibly fast) in the tech-as-fashion paradigm.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kiosk.net</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiosk.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Apple: taking a bite out of video market&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;I&#8217;ve said some positive things about the Apple iPod Video, and I&#8217;ve said some negative things about the Apple iPod Video.  At its best, it may revolutionize the video market.  At its worse, it&#8217;ll be another mp3 player with a fancy, b...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Apple: taking a bite out of video market</strong></p>

<pre><code>I&amp;#8217;ve said some positive things about the Apple iPod Video, and I&amp;#8217;ve said some negative things about the Apple iPod Video.  At its best, it may revolutionize the video market.  At its worse, it&amp;#8217;ll be another mp3 player with a fancy, b...
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		<title>By: Alison Chaiken</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-1968</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Chaiken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The classic example of Apple as a Fast Second is their famous user interface, which they borrowed from the Xerox Alto back in the 1980&#039;s.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Reference: &lt;em&gt;Fumbling the Future: How Xerox Invented, then
        Ignored, the First Personal Computer&lt;/em&gt; by Douglas K.
        Smith and Robert C. Alexander&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The classic example of Apple as a Fast Second is their famous user interface, which they borrowed from the Xerox Alto back in the 1980&#8217;s.</p>

<p>Reference: <em>Fumbling the Future: How Xerox Invented, then
        Ignored, the First Personal Computer</em> by Douglas K.
        Smith and Robert C. Alexander</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: eric prebys</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-1913</link>
		<dc:creator>eric prebys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello! Apple? Offer this guy a million dollars and hire him already. His analysis on your products and company direction have been consistently interesting and insightful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(full disclosure: i have been reputed to consider Nivi a friend and i highly doubt he is actually looking for a job with Apple)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! Apple? Offer this guy a million dollars and hire him already. His analysis on your products and company direction have been consistently interesting and insightful.</p>

<p>(full disclosure: i have been reputed to consider Nivi a friend and i highly doubt he is actually looking for a job with Apple)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-1900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think the iPod was the fast second to the MP3 player market.  Or the fast third, or fast fourth.  The market was well-saturated when Apple entered.  It was the kind of thing you got for Christmas and stuffed in a drawer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think a better analogy is the video game industry in the early 1980s.  It was ridiculously saturated - even Quaker Oats was in it.  Nintendo was able to use a fire cone pine market strategy.  They waited for everything to come down crashing and burning, and then successfully launched NES at the moment when everyone thought they&#039;d have to be crazy to enter the market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some would cry that this approach is not innovative, but I&#039;m not so sure.  You have to pay very close attention to every other product out there on the market, and you have to have a strong vision of a customer need that isn&#039;t being met.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the iPod was the fast second to the MP3 player market.  Or the fast third, or fast fourth.  The market was well-saturated when Apple entered.  It was the kind of thing you got for Christmas and stuffed in a drawer.</p>

<p>I think a better analogy is the video game industry in the early 1980s.  It was ridiculously saturated &#8211; even Quaker Oats was in it.  Nintendo was able to use a fire cone pine market strategy.  They waited for everything to come down crashing and burning, and then successfully launched NES at the moment when everyone thought they&#8217;d have to be crazy to enter the market.</p>

<p>Some would cry that this approach is not innovative, but I&#8217;m not so sure.  You have to pay very close attention to every other product out there on the market, and you have to have a strong vision of a customer need that isn&#8217;t being met.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: assaf</title>
		<link>http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/steve-jobs-fast-second/comment-page-1#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>assaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In spite of being an early WinAmp and Rio user, it took an iPod and iTMS to get me to carry an MP3 player around and throw away my CDs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s innovation. (and I&#039;m not just talking Apple, there are other vendors that do the same)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not technology innovation, but that&#039;s ok. Technology doesn&#039;t necessarily make my life better. It&#039;s product innovation. It assumes (correctly) that I want to be lazy, I want to show off, I enjoy aesthetics. All the things that the iPod does well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In spite of being an early WinAmp and Rio user, it took an iPod and iTMS to get me to carry an MP3 player around and throw away my CDs.</p>

<p>That&#8217;s innovation. (and I&#8217;m not just talking Apple, there are other vendors that do the same)</p>

<p>It&#8217;s not technology innovation, but that&#8217;s ok. Technology doesn&#8217;t necessarily make my life better. It&#8217;s product innovation. It assumes (correctly) that I want to be lazy, I want to show off, I enjoy aesthetics. All the things that the iPod does well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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